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July 17, 2009

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dawood

Hear hear!

sabiwabi

I told you so. I told you so. I told you so.

They truly want Islam to disappear off the face of the globe and nothing less. If they can write something like this about "an unapologetic liberal and a proud American Muslim"...what hope do we have?

NONE.

BTW, was I supposed to be laughing hysterically during the entire article? I couldn't help myself. I bet Fitzgerald would make a mint if he worked for Comedy Central.

Aaron

I don't know what possessed you or others to engage these fools on jihad watch and elsewhere. They have no respect for reason and are fully charged with the mission to malign Islam and are well-funded toward that aim. They are an utter waste of time. You will not change them. There hate is there profession. Your 15 minutes were a foolish waste of time for such an intelligent person as you.

Kafir Harby

Robert Spencer knows more about that pseudo-religion than any mullah or muslim scholar in the world. Mister Spencer knows that this fascist ideology is up to no good and needs to be stopped. This knowledge, and his sublime expertise, make him a dangerous man to appeasers, to islamists and their agressive Da'wa. The West needs a thousand more Spencers to sound all the available alarm bells to make the world understand that we are not at war with terror but with islam.

dawood

Yes, someone who does not belong to the religious tradition and has an ideological axe to grind knows more about the religion than someone who has spent their whole life studying and practicing it every day.

I hope you have good admin tools with typepad sven! :)

svend

@sabiwaba
Yes, Fizgerald's pompous rants were utterly disconnected from reality. That's the main reason I responded, as it provides a window into how trite and biased their rhetoric is.

@Aaron
I understand what you're saying, and I can't say I've enjoyed dealing with all these goons. I think you're right that these people are impervious to reason. However, JW's readers get a very selective taste of the Muslim community and Spencer's critics. If this exchange plants a seed of doubt about all Spencer's myopic claims about Islam and Muslims then it will have been worth it.

@KH
Whatever.

@dawood
Indeed, though you left out the part about the vast conspiracy theory among professionals and scholars ... sorry, "radical leftists" ... to keep Prophet Spencer from telling the world the truth about Jeeehad.

BTW, don't forget the 'd', boy. Don't you go and make me into a Swede.

dawood

Danish, Swedish, convert, born-Muslim, Muslim, non-Muslim, it's all the same no? Potato Potatoe? Tomato, Tomatoe ;)

I guess I was perhaps following the lead of JW et all, not letting actual facts (such as your name or status) get in the way of a good rant.

George Carty

sabiwabi: "They truly want Islam to disappear off the face of the globe and nothing less."

Isn't the toughest obstacle that such radical Islamophobes actually face not convincing people that a majority of Muslims _desire_ to conquer the Western world, or convincing people that the Muslims _have the power_ to conquer the Western world, but rather countering the view that destroying Islam is too high a price to pay to preserve Western civilization.

Islam is the most tenacious belief system in history - more so than Christianity and _far_ more so than any secular political ideology. The only way territories (eg Iberia, much of the Balkans, Israel) have been de-Islamized is by ethnically cleansing their Muslim populations. This implies that to destroy Islam you'd have to genocide a fifth of the world's population.

Sci-fi author SM Stirling (himself highly Islamophobic) pointed this out in a Usenet post at http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/msg/083f998bf19e8e6d?hl=en. Big mistake! Now I can't read rhetoric advocating the destruction of Islam without recoiling in horror to thoughts of "better dhimmi than génocidaire".

I only hope they don't nuke a Western city and frame Muslims for it - that's probably what they'd have to do to get what they want (as use of a nuke against a city would be interpreted as a signal of genocidal intent, and therefore shortcircuit the objection mentioned above).

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